> Love Unlimited Orchestra – Welcome Aboard (1981)
I found it interesting that this record sounded already a bit like what Metro Area were doing later on.
It is a very unusual track, especially for the time it was produced. There was not a lot then sounding like this. It almost has a housey touch, and a very beautiful atmosphere.
The track title is very telling, it is the perfect way to start a set.
Exactly, we did a show for betalounge.com once with Smith N Hack and used this as the first track.
The sound is very romantically space-like. Is this something you look for in disco? Some kind of futuristic touch?
Well, here it is a feature that definitely attracts me. I also like that it is so reduced. I like tracks that are special and unusual, like this. It is very straight, there is not too much happening in it.
Barry White kind of transformed his symphonic kitsch into something completely different with this production.
The beat almost sounds like it was sampled, very strange. I think it is a warm up bomb.
Your productions are normally not associated with sounds this mellow.
Yes, but this has this certain straightness to it, and I always like that. They hold this sequence for the whole track and just add strings and vocals, and the beat just goes on.
> El Coco – Cocomotion (1977)
This goes right back to your first Sound Stream 12”. I found it interesting that you just used a tiny weird loop, instead of its catchy bassline.
Yes, I often just get hooked on single parts and sample them. “Motion” was more like an edit. It is just a loop which then gets chopped up a bit. I like the loop because it holds the tension for so long, it’s very trippy.
But it is a very special approach to editing. You certainly were not aiming for authenticity or better DJ use.
It is kind of how it started. The first re-edits in Chicago for example. They looped bits and extended them until they developed a hypnotic quality. I think Ron Hardy initiated that. He rode a loop for several minutes and after a while it just sucked you in. This repetition also goes back to James Brown. His band played a riff for a while, then a break came on, and then it started all over again.
So you decidedly edit music to achieve a track-like quality?
Yes, definitely. With nearly all my productions I try to last long with little, and it is the same with other music I like. Simple tracks that don’t need much to hold attention for quite some time, instead of losing that after half a minute.
I remember hearing a Ron Hardy set a while ago, where he extended just the break part of Isaac Hayes “I Can’t Turn Around” for ages.
Yes, they reissued that tape edit recently. It sparked early house, like “Love Can’t Turn Around”. It is basically the same, they took the tape loop and replayed it with synthesizers, and some additional bassline and piano.
What do you think of edits that keep the arrangement of the original and just tweak the beats?
No. Something new has to be created in the process of editing. And as a DJ, I’d rather take a real drummer and fight my way through the timing. It’s funkier than a streamlined edit. That makes no sense to me. It’s okay if you have track with a wonderful part in it and then a break follows with guitars or something else you just don’t want to have. But an edit ultimately has to lead to something new.
Peter Kruder – The Law Of Return (Macro) Red Sparrow – That’s The Way Of The World (United States Of Mars) Santiago Salazar – Arcade (Stefan Goldmann Mix) (Macro) Technose Distrikt – Untitled (Rush Hour) Katelectro – Plug (Ultradyne Remix) (Mighty Robot Recordings) DJ Sneak – Fear The World (Defiant) Reggie Hall – I’ll Keep On Workin’ You (Urgent Music Works) The Pig – Are You…? (Rush Hour) Aaron Carl & Benjamin Hayes – The Struggle (Remix By The Plan) (Wallshaker) DJ Sprinkles – Sloppy 42nds (Glorimar’s Deeperama) (Mule Electronic) Raudive – Tul (Macro) Pépé Bradock – 100% Coton (Kif Recordings)
As a respected journalist, in many ways you educate your readers. Would you say that this comes across in your DJ sets as well?
To a certain extent. In the days before the internet made all sorts of musical knowledge easily accessible it was more important, because apart from what you could gather in the print media and some specialist TV and radio programs, the DJ at the club was the one to offer the glimpse of what was going on. I have benefited a lot from the skills and taste of DJs like Klaus Stockhausen and others back then, who knew what music really mattered and who also knew how to best spread their knowledge as an intense party experience. If that works, it is the perfect way of learning about music. I was always interested in the historical context of culture and I like to connect the dots between prototypes and later developments and so in the past I felt the need to adopt that, playing a lot of records I felt missed out on the deserved recognition along better known stuff, in order to make people wonder and dance at the same time. I still do that, but now a lot of the rare records I would say are worth discovering are very likely to be discussed on specialist boards anyway, and you can easily gather the information with a few clicks that once took quite a while of digging and research. But this inevitably led to DJing with a mere collector’s approach, which often results in a showcase of rare items and not in a good party. I also don’t like when such sets are presented like the real deal and authentic, as I have been around clubs for a long time now and DJs playing whole nights of just obscure music were the absolute exception. I am very aware of the privilege of having been there when some the music people still dance to today was in early progress, and so I like to play older records like I remember them being played at the time they were introduced. And of course I use the web myself to learn how pioneering DJs played certain records in certain clubs. That is not obliging for how I choose the records for the night, but it satisfies my curiosity. I always make a few steps forward and a few steps back with what I play, and I reserve the specialist program for radio shows and mixes I make or get asked for. For gigs, the way I put my record box together has always been the same, I just pack the tracks that I would like to dance to if I was attending the club the same night, and that’s it.
Tell us a bit about Macro and the label’s plans for the future.
Macro was conceived by Stefan and me to be both a platform for his productions and other music we like, with no artistic and stylistic restrictions apart from a high quality standard. We just wanted our label releases and identity to stand out via artwork and concept from other output we deemed interchangeable and risk-free. Thankfully our ideas caught on so quickly that we got approached by other artists and producers we admire who like the idea of releasing on a label that is laying emphasis on individuality and some lasting impressions instead of just exploiting the trends of the season. You can hear some of the results in this mix. There is a track from our first release this year by Oliver Ho as Raudive, Stefan’s stunning remix of Santiago Salazar’s “Arcade”, which is about to hit the shops, and a track from the forthcoming 12″ Peter Kruder produced for us. Furthermore Stefan’s edit experiment with Stravinsky’s “Le Sacre du Printemps” is going to be released in early June and later this year we will unleash a very special album project with an accompanying series of 12″s, the preparations of which have kept us well busy and buzzing with anticipation since last year. We think it is quite a sensation.
You are known for fusing Disco and Classics in your DJ sets. What changed in your approach for the Sweatlodge set?
I still play a lot of sets where I combine Disco and other related older genres with modern electronic music, but I don’t want to do so per se. I like to treat every set as a new position, be it topical, stylistically or based on a certain purpose. This is basically an excerpt of some favourite sounds I play at the moment as a DJ representing Macro. A hopefully coherent mix of old and new. On another day it could have turned out to sound completely different, but this is how I felt it should be at the time I dropped the needle on the first record. Generally, I have a lot of records to choose from and I try to make good use of that.
Where have you played in the past that you would really want to re-visit again?
We just had our first label night at Panoramabar, and that was predictably an experience I very much look forward to repeat. I also did a nine hour plus back-to-back Disco set with Hunee last Summer at Picknick’s yard which was quite immense and shall happen again. Berlin is buzzing with great clubs, partys, DJs and devoted dancers at the moment, but I have no preferences but a good night out, and I have no doubts I will have some of that for the rest of the year. I’m also looking forward to some gigs lined up beyond Berlin, because I like to travel around and witness some other cities and the according scenes. We’re also working on taking the label out for some dates, and I happily await some fine experiences lying ahead of me with that.
This is very early electronic music, from White Noise’s first album from 1969. They were among the first to use synthesizers in a rock context and their music became very influential later on. This particular track seems indeed way ahead of its contemporaries, and it is pretty wild.
I didn’t know that at all. I had problems listening through it, it is almost disturbing. From today’s point of view it maybe is not that overtly experimental anymore, but setting it into the time of its production, it is very cool.
There certainly was not much comparable music back then.
The sound is very good. They already had synthesizers? There is a lot of space in the production. If you would not have told me, I would never have guessed that it is so old. The arrangement and the noisy parts reminded me of destructed Amen breaks, totally distorted. Very interesting.
Quartz – Chaos
The next one is by Quartz from France . Also early synthesizer music, but within a disco context.
I was not into that at all. My calendar does not really start before 1990 or so. Even stuff like early Model 500, Cybotron, it is ok, but it’s not mine. I also can’t get into Kraftwerk. What has been called techno from 1990 on was what got me to listen to music consciously for the first time. I was never the one to check the influences on music that I like. I know Disco only from TV, Saturday Night Fever and such. I was never really interested in it.
Is that based on a basic antipathy towards the sounds of disco music?
There was a short period I found it exciting, around the time the filter and cut-up disco house arrived with DJ Sneak, all the sample stuff. But that was over pretty soon when all the records started to sound the same. So yes, it is based on principle that I don’t like the sounds too much.
So you were more interested in how a track was built on samples than where they came from?
Exactly. It was fascinating to me how all could be said in a loop that went for three minutes, if it was a cool one. Longer than that it could get boring. Of course you can’t compare that to what happens in the original disco track, there was more happening there than in house tracks, which only used bits. It was interesting that many people used the same samples and you became aware that there must some source for it. But sample based productions are not my philosophy. I never wanted to just use bits of other people’s music.
Those disco house records also did not always pay tribute to disco, they deconstructed it, and often in a not very respectful manner.
Not at all. It’s strange how American producers often deal with each other, all that stealing amongst themselves. But in the end we all benefited from that (laughs). Read the rest of this entry »
Normalerweise wirst Du ja mit der Musikszene aus Detroit assoziiert, aber Du kommst ursprünglich aus Chicago. In Deinen DJ-Sets spielst Du viele Klassiker aus beiden Städten. Ist das Absicht, Deinen dortigen Background gleichermaßen zu repräsentieren?
Es hängt viel damit zusammen, dass ich anfangs sehr daran geschult wurde, wie man in Chicago auflegt, sozusagen meine Bildungsjahre als DJ. In den ersten fünf Jahren lernt man die Mehrheit von dem, was sich später als deine Stärke herausstellt. Danach kommt das Ego ins Spiel. Nach zehn Jahren hat mein sein Ego überwunden und es geht um die Auswahl selbst und man lässt die Musik übernehmen. In Chicago war es sehr einflussreich an einem Ort zu sein, an dem man viele Leute, die als Meister ihres Fachs zu betrachten sind, dabei beobachten konnte wie sie ihren Stil entwickeln. Dabei wusste man gar nicht, dass das gerade passiert. Diese Musik wurde dann später sehr ikonisch. Ich zog in den mittleren Neunzigern nach Kansas City, zur Universität, und dort war es sehr schwierig, an die ganzen neuen Sounds zu kommen. Ich bekam anständige Sachen, aber man hatte eher Zugang zu Hip Hop, Funk und Soul als zu den House-Platten, die zu der Zeit raus kamen. Meine Eltern zogen nach Detroit und in den Ferien ging ich dann dort in die Plattenläden und hörte dann all die Sachen, von deren Veröffentlichungen ich gar nichts wusste. Beat Freak, Blaze, Kerri Chandler. Zudem passierte auch eine Menge in Detroit, es gab Soiree und Track Mode, eine Menge Label machten zur gleichen Zeit Sachen und ich hatte soviel verpasst.
Es gab also viel Nachholbedarf.
Und ob. Ich bin dann immer zur Ferienzeit nach Detroit gefahren um mehr davon zu kriegen, und mehr und mehr und mehr. Schließlich lernte ich dann einen Typen kennen, der im Plattenladen arbeitete und das war Rick Wilhite und er fragte mich immer, ob ich sowas mögen würde, weil damals jeder in Detroit extrem auf Techno stand. Ich mag Techno aber es gab auch immer bestimmte Sachen, die ich lieber mochte, das kann ich gar nicht genau begründen. Rick hörte dann auf da zu arbeiten und der nächste der mich dort fragte ob er mir helfen könnte, so mit Afro und so, das war Kenny Dixon Jr. Ich zog dann nach dem College erstmal zu meinen Eltern nach Detroit und wohnte im Keller, ich hatte keine Kohle und wie das so ist mit College Kids, die Eltern fragen sich, was man mit seinem Leben anstellen will und ich legte in der Umgebung auf und den Leuten gefiel es, also dachte ich, das mache ich weiter. Ich denke, beide Städte sind musikalisch sehr zusammengebunden und ich sehe sie irgendwie als gleichen Ort. Es gibt entsprechende Traditionen in beiden Städten, der größte Unterschied ist, dasd Detroit traditionell mehr auf Melodie eingestellt ist und Chicago mehr auf Rhythmus. Das wechselt von Produzent zu Produzent. Manchmal hast du einen sehr perkussiven Detroit-Track und einen sehr melodiösen Chicago-Track, aber meistens treibt der Beat das Zeug aus Chicago an und die Melodie das Zeug aus Detroit. Die Beats in Detroit sind oft komplexer, weil sie auch als andere Einheiten in der Bauweise eines Songs benutzt werden, der Beat in Chicago ist meistens nicht so komplex, er ist einfach, sehr effektiv und sehr ansteckend. Es sind dann die Melodien, welche die verschiedenen Emotionen in den Track bringen, wohingegen die Melodien in Detroit sich um den Track herumwickeln und sich fast wie ein Beat verhalten, das ist ästhetisch sehr interessant. Dann gibt es merkwürdige Hybriden wie von K.Alexi, die irgendwo dazwischen liegen. Oder Leute wie Scott Grooves, die zwischen New York und Chicago sind, er ist ganz unbeschreiblich. Man hatte also zu der Zeit verschiedene Produzenten, die auf Eigenarten der Sounds in ihrer Entwicklungsphase trafen, bevor die Neunziger die Zeit war, wo beide Szenen sehr aktiv und fruchtbar waren. Man hatte da fast den Anfang der brillanten Karriere von Glenn Underground und seinem Output, weil zu der Zeit Cajual passierte, danach Prescription und Balance. Man hatte alle diese Produzenten, die den Grundstock von dem herausbringen konnten, was wir jetzt als House kennen. Wenn man den Vorteil hatte, an dieser Chicago-Herangehensweise geschult zu sein, bekam man anschließend keinen Respekt, wenn man als DJ nur Songs gespielt hat, die man mit dem Pitch angleichen konnte, denen Midi, Timing oder Sequencer beigefügt waren. Tracks mit Wechseln, Funk, Soul, Disco, wenn man das mixen konnte, zeigte das deine Fertigkeiten und du bekamst als DJ Respekt. Und jeder machte das, wirklich jeder. Es gab so viele Bedroom DJs in Chicago, das war schon fast lächerlich. Viele sind jetzt Mittdreißiger oder Vierzig und machen das immer noch, weil sie House lieben. Ich war gesegnet, weil ich meine Wurzeln verlagern konnte. Ich brauchte ein wenig Zeit, um in die Szene in Detroit zu kommen und jetzt bin ich ein bisschen der Außenseiter in Chicago. Aber weil ich dort eine Geschichte habe, ist es nicht so schlimm. In lebe in Detroit, ich gebe mein Geld da aus, meine Frau kommt von da, das ist jetzt mein Zuhause. So eine bewusste Sache ist das auch nicht, aber wenn ich ein Set zusammenstelle, wie jetzt z. B. für Berlin, dann weiß ich, dass es nicht so viel Sinn macht, viele Platten aus New York einzupacken, oder L.A., selbst aus anderen Teilen von Europa. Höchstens ein paar Tunes die passen, unbestritten sind und nicht so regional konnotiert sind. Es gibt aber auch einen bestimmten Anteil Geschichte, an den ich sehr gewöhnt bin und es ist manchmal einfacher bequemer für mich, entsprechende Songs zusammenzustellen und diese funktionieren auch als Referenz für Geschichte. Wenn ich einen Edit von „Jungle DJ“ spiele, ist das ein Hinweis an viele andere Tracks, die gerade im Umlauf sind. Ich kann zeitgemäße Stücke mit älteren Sachen mixen und eine Geschichte erzählen, so dass Leute, die auf eine Party kommen auf der ich spiele, nicht das Gefühl bekommen einer DJ-Performance beizuwohnen, sondern dass da etwas ist, das geteilt wird. Kommt rein und amüsiert euch. Weil es Geschichte ist, mit der ich gut vertraut bin, besteht eine gute Chance, dass ich das in einer Art präsentieren kann, die für euch annehmbar und unterhaltsam ist. Das ist so die Geisteshaltung die ich annehme, wenn ich mich als DJ vorbereite. Read the rest of this entry »
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